It seems that the community doesn't like people who don't know much, and it really seems to turn down new users. Shouldn't questions only be downvoted if the user's looking to troll or be intentionally negative? I've also noticed quite a bit of hate answers when this happens? Why can't we all be polite?
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6\$\begingroup\$ "This question does not show any research effort; it is unclear or not useful." \$\endgroup\$– Matt YoungNov 11, 2015 at 17:49
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3\$\begingroup\$ Maybe we should introduce a BeginnersElectronics.SE where we can migrate all those questions to ;o) \$\endgroup\$– jippieNov 11, 2015 at 18:41
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\$\begingroup\$ @jippie ... or the other way around: leave electronics.stackexchange to beginners and set up eee.stackexchange for no-nonsense pros. \$\endgroup\$– Nick AlexeevNov 11, 2015 at 18:45
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\$\begingroup\$ As a matter of fact a largly similar topic was discussed in chat recently. I believe the consensus was along the lines of: too little effort, exam fraud, easy to Google, too little or no context, applying for a Darwin award, ... etc. The review queues are full of nonsense lately, it is just getting too much for the few who try to keep quality to a reasonable level. \$\endgroup\$– jippieNov 11, 2015 at 18:46
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\$\begingroup\$ @NickAlexeev will rep be transferable to eee.se? What will be the meaning of the third 'e'? \$\endgroup\$– jippieNov 11, 2015 at 18:47
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\$\begingroup\$ @jippie Electrical and Electronic Engineering. There is no reputation transfer on StackExchange (aside from 100 rep association bonus). \$\endgroup\$– Nick AlexeevNov 11, 2015 at 18:51
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\$\begingroup\$ @NickAlexeev so you answered the question about the other way around yourself. ;o) \$\endgroup\$– jippieNov 11, 2015 at 18:52
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5\$\begingroup\$ @jippie A good online EE community is one where new users have to send a photo of their oscilloscope to apply for membership. \$\endgroup\$– Nick AlexeevNov 11, 2015 at 18:57
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4\$\begingroup\$ @NickAlexeev a two hour delay queue for low rep users would largely solve exam fraud. \$\endgroup\$– jippieNov 11, 2015 at 19:01
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1\$\begingroup\$ Without a link to examples we can analyze, this is a pointless discussion. \$\endgroup\$– Olin LathropNov 13, 2015 at 14:29
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2\$\begingroup\$ @OlinLathrop here are the steps to find more examples than we can discuss. [STEP 1]: go to electronics.stackexchange.com/questions. [STEP 2]: look for a question with negative votes. [STEP 3]: click that question. [STEP 4]: observe the ignorance at work, in both the askers and commenters. \$\endgroup\$– user86234Nov 13, 2015 at 15:15
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5\$\begingroup\$ You are claiming hate and ignorance (your words). Without specific examples we can all judge as to whether they are really hateful and ignorant, or your perception, or your misunderstanding of how the site works, or whatever, your "question" is just a rant and doesn't belong here. Voting to close. \$\endgroup\$– Olin LathropNov 13, 2015 at 18:29
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5\$\begingroup\$ It matters a great deal. If you dump crap on us, you should be kicked in the butt. If you hand in slop as homework, you probably get lower the grade. If you hand someone a sloppy resume, you have less chance of getting hired. Here on SE, you get downvoted and get your question closed. There are plenty of people who ask good questions here. We don't need to waste time babying the ones that can't be bothered. It is less trouble and better for the site in the long run if we simply dispense with them in the most expedient way possible. \$\endgroup\$– Olin LathropNov 13, 2015 at 18:50
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2\$\begingroup\$ Just check Olin's comment history for examples lol. \$\endgroup\$– PasserbyNov 15, 2015 at 22:35
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1\$\begingroup\$ I allowed myself to propose a different site. area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/93532/… \$\endgroup\$– user65665Dec 16, 2015 at 14:31
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To quote the tour page:
Electrical Engineering Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for electronics and electrical engineering professionals, students, and enthusiasts.
"Professionals, students, and enthusiasts" are not people who have no experience in EE, but still want to do something. So far as I'm concerned, every post that starts "I program for a living, but have no experience with EE, and I want to ...." is a target for closing/deletion if there's been no effort on research to bring the poster to speed.
I don't care for the hate answers, but I'd prefer to have the signal to noise ratio skewed toward high signal, low noise.
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\$\begingroup\$ I've seen posts that at least attempt to do research and they get hated on many a time, not only that, this policy closes off newbies to a wonderful hobby. Not only that, it's thoroughly NOT enforced. I mean, the exact opposite of 'doing research' is what gets the most rep, I mean, of the top monthly questions I would put a heafty ammount of money on the fact that all but 0-3 of them don't cite any research at any point in time besides some "i've been digging" statement they made ambiguously. \$\endgroup\$– user86234Dec 7, 2015 at 22:56
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1\$\begingroup\$ @tuskiomi this certainly does not close off people from wonderful hobby, it merely discourages them from doing it here. Citing research is not necessary, but being able to understand the discussion you generate is. It's like when I try to use my limited grasp of foreign language - My slow strained language use elicits responses that I just can't follow. \$\endgroup\$ Dec 8, 2015 at 2:45
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\$\begingroup\$ but only the french would call you an idiot for not understanding what a word meant. \$\endgroup\$– user86234Dec 8, 2015 at 2:46
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To down vote costs reputation so its really easy for high rep users to do and not so easy for low rep .I would call myself middle rep which I should be because I am a consultant and should be no better or no worse than anyone else .I only down vote if something is really wrong .I upvote if I learn something.
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\$\begingroup\$ Downvoting questions does not cost rep. Only down voting answers costs the down voter -1 \$\endgroup\$– PasserbyDec 7, 2015 at 3:24