# Isn't it an insult to contributors to close answered questions?

There are many questions on this forum that have been commented on and answered, only later to be voted "on hold" and then subsequently closed. Reasons for holding are irrelevant. The issue is that good people have devoted their precious time to answering, sometimes at considerable length. Some of these examples have several answers, each with multiple comments that might overall comprise 10+ unique contributors.

Some might consider it as a slap in the face to then be told by the chattering classes that their contributions are useless and better deleted. Whilst a question remains unanswered, then a hold vote is fine for whatever reason. If a question is held due to being too broad or off topic after people have posted answers, how can it be voted such? Remember that's just one bunch of guys' opinions vs another bunch of guys' opinions, yet time and effort has been expended in answering and commenting. The comments themselves contain significant useful knowledge. Unless you're listing the digits of pi, then other's opinions are as worthless as mine.

I'm not quite sure of the solution, but respecting the multiple member's efforts might be a start...

• This is a pointless rant without examples. Apr 13 '17 at 1:36
• It's a defence of the many contributors who have had their time and effort wiped out when fully answered questions have been deleted. Can you understand that principles do not need examples? I recognise your name. You've had your contributions deleted too. What do you think about that? Apr 13 '17 at 1:47
• Creating an answer does not magically turn a bad question into a good one. The community reviewers are evaluating the question on its own merits, and whether or not there are answers plays a relatively minor role in that. Plus, there are users here that are happy to jump on a topic that's dear to them and expound at length at the slightest provocation. They might be better served by creating a self-answered question instead of latching onto a poorly-written one. Apr 13 '17 at 1:55
• Last month I came in on Monday to have a program I worked on for almost a year cancelled. It's mildly annoying, but I'm not bothered by it. An answer I write here matters a few orders of magnitude less. Occasionally something you put effort into will get cancelled/deleted/made obsolete or have the scope changed. Apr 13 '17 at 2:01
• You should not consider that closing a question is a punishment. At least, certainly not for the answers already there. As long as the content stays there (closing a post doesn't delete it), this is not wasted effort. And people can still vote, so you can sill get rep points from such answers, if that is what you're after. Closing is just a way to tell people who want to help others: "please look at other questions that are more on-topic", so this site doesn't get flooded with crap.
– dim
Apr 13 '17 at 13:24
• As of this post, the mean reputation of the participants here is 64,000. All have been prejudiced against my question (6 down votes). So far I seem to be the only one defending the people who actually answered. That's interesting, but what could it mean? Apr 13 '17 at 13:29
• @Paul: Downvotes on meta only mean disagreement, unlike on the main site where they mean you're a living brain donor, you smell bad, and imply various relations between your mother and the 3rd fleet. Note that no rep is gained or lost when others vote on your meta posts. Apr 13 '17 at 15:44
• disagreements are best left in comments, the point merit system has no value to me unless void of value with serious flawed technical errors, not just the few who "don't like it". minor errors ought to be handle in comments, not flag down and run away in anonymity. if take the time to judge anyone, take the time to put it in writing and don't close with giving the Op the time to correct the flagrant errors. I understand your rant and had once been victimized by many arrogant mortals who felt they know better with far less experience. Apr 17 '17 at 18:43
• In Meta, downvotes mean you disagree with the post's proposal (in this case, it's an implied proposal not to close questions that have gotten an answer). They don't mean they think it was wrong to ask the question. Apr 18 '17 at 23:23
• FWIW I've had two questions closed after I answered this week. No big deal. If it bugs you, learn to recognize which questions will be closed and don't answer those. Apr 18 '17 at 23:24

The main point you are missing is that closing questions is about the question, not the answers.

People that write bad questions must not get the desired result (a good answer), else they will be back doing the same again. Even worse, it shows others that writing crappy questions works. We don't want a site with a bunch of crappy questions, even if sometimes they have good answers.

Unfortunately, all too often there are wannabes that can't resist looking smart and answer bad questions. They don't care that they hurt the site for a little personal gain. This is why we have the close mechanism. If 5 users with enough rep agree (or one mod), others are prevented from answering a question. It's unfortunate that this is necessary, but experience has shown that it is. Your question is further proof that it is, and even that closing is sometimes too late to prevent rewarding bad questions.

Yes, it's frustrating when you write a good answer and the question gets closed. But, there are some things you can do about that:

1. Don't answer bad questions. Especially after you've been around here a while, you get reasonably good at recognizing questions that will probably be closed. In fact, then you can help the site and contribute your own close vote.

2. If you are thinking "Oo oo, this is something I really want to respond to!", first step back and take a deep breath. Carefully evaluate the question. If you think it might get closed, write your own question, properly, and then write your awesome answer.

3. In some cases, if the question is bad because of non-English-speaking wording, for example, you can edit the question to fix it, then write your answer. Another example might be changing something too broad into a narrower more answerable question.

However, this should be done sparingly. The problem is that this still rewards the OP for a bad question. They dump slop here and get the desired result. We really don't want that happening.

If a question is bad because it exhibits sloppiness, lack of attention to detail, uses text-speak, or in any other way is disrespectful of the volunteers here, do not fix it. Let it die a natural death, which of course includes not answering it. Don't edit it because that deprives others of seeing the OP's bad attitude. That is relevant information others might want to take into account in how or if they answer the question, downvote it, or vote to close it.

Think of it this way. Every time you write a answer, you are betting your time on the quality of the question. If you don't want your time wasted, don't answer bad questions.

Every once in a while, you will think a question is OK and others close it anyway. It happens, learn from it, then get over it. If you really want to preserve your work and think it's a valuable contribution to the site, write a good version of the question yourself, then copy your answer to it. Self-answering is allowed, even specifically mentioned, in the site rules.

• Good points all. Apr 13 '17 at 13:18

There are many questions on this forum that have been commented on and answered, only later to be voted "on hold" and then subsequently closed.

Please read this: What does it mean if a question is "closed" or "on hold"? Getting a question closed means that it is off topic or a few other reasons like a duplicate or if the answer is unclear. Closing a question:
2) It does prevent further answers from being created
3) And I believe it makes the question not searchable, google picks up questions, why would you want the world to see bad ones?
4) Realize that the moderation system comes from years of experience with SE, the system works and is put in place for SE's goals.

Reasons for holding are irrelevant. Reasons for holding are relevant, there are reasons why the moderation system was put into place by SE. It works and if it doesn't work you can always talk to a moderator or get it re-opened. Users ask bad questions, it is just plain wrong for people to barge in here and expect an answer to their question with doing little or no work and\or writing a bad question. Bad questions lead to needless discussion. A lot of the closed questions have much discussion about clarification of what the OP meant. Yes there are some people who do not follow the 'be nice' policy, if its a really bad comment then flag it or talk to a moderator.

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